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  1. Which Plane Next? 
    #1
    Started A While Back With The Wing Dragon, Then Moved Up To The Wing-dragon Sportster And Have Done Well With It. Any Suggestions On What Would Be A Good Next Plane? Thanks
     

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    #2
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    How about something a little more scale like a Parkzone J3 Cub, Parkzone Super Decathalon, or a Thunder Tiger Super Cub EP?

    The Parkzone models run around $130 at your local hobby store, and the TT Super Cub is available as a ready-to-fly bundle from http://www.thundertiger4u.com for about $137.00.

    Any of these planes will fly a bit faster than what you've flown so far, but all of them will handle a bit more wind than what you're used to as well.
     

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    #3
    I suggest that you go with the PZ Cub. Very nice flying plane, plentiful supply of parts and good potential for performance improvements. The PZ Decathlon is very similar to the Cub, but the Cub flies a little better and a little longer on the same battery. A correction to Bigedmustafa"s info: the Cub and Decathlon run $160, not $130.
     

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    #4
    Quote Originally Posted by bigedmustafa
    How about something a little more scale like a Parkzone J3 Cub, Parkzone Super Decathalon, or a Thunder Tiger Super Cub EP?

    The Parkzone models run around $130 at your local hobby store, and the TT Super Cub is available as a ready-to-fly bundle from http://www.thundertiger4u.com for about $137.00.

    Any of these planes will fly a bit faster than what you've flown so far, but all of them will handle a bit more wind than what you're used to as well.
    THANKS FOR THE ADVICE I THINK WILL LOOK REAL HARD AT THE THUNDER TIGER EP. READ SOME OF YOUR OTHER THREADS AND THE PLANES SOUNDS ABOUT WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR. JUST A LITTLE NOTE ORGINALLY TRIED STARTING WITH A PARKZONE SUPER DECATHALON HAD LOTS OF PROBLEMS, EVEN HAD AN EXPERENCE PILOT HELPING. WHEN TURNING THE WING WOULD DIP HARD INTO THE TURN AND OUT OF CONTROL SHE WAS,THEN DOWN LIKE A BRICK! HENCE MY SON NAMED IT THE FLYING BRICK, WHICH IS WHERE MY NAME IS DERIVED FROM. ONCE AGAIN THANKS!
     

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    #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Leo L
    I suggest that you go with the PZ Cub. Very nice flying plane, plentiful supply of parts and good potential for performance improvements. The PZ Decathlon is very similar to the Cub, but the Cub flies a little better and a little longer on the same battery. A correction to Bigedmustafa"s info: the Cub and Decathlon run $160, not $130.


    THANKS FOR THE ADVICE
     

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    #6
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    Time to get serious.

    1) Get a radio - If you are staying with elecrics/parkflyers, then consider the DX6. There are so many good reasons to go with this one.

    THE PROBLEM - Channel Conflict on 72 and 27 MHz

    One of the concerns of the RC flying community is that people flying off the club fields are not being taught about frequency control within the 72 MHz RC airplane hobby band. The feeling is that these off field flyers are beginning to represent a danger to the safety of planes and people on and off the club fields. If you are flying your RC plane at some school yard you could interfere with those on the club fields or with other parkflyer pilots elsewhere. You could be causing crashes and not even know it. Or you could be subject to loss of control of your plane and not know why.

    The issue is channel conflict. If you are flying on the same channel as another flyer, one or both of you will crash. With the range of today's equipment, you might be a mile away from the other flyer and still effect each other. The AMA recommends that club fields be at least 3 miles apart for this reason.

    In the past channel conflict has been handled by frequency control procedures on club fields. But, with the dawn of the low cost parkflyers, many new pilots are not members of clubs and are flying outside of the frequency control procedures of the clubs.

    Pilots using 27 MHz may feel they are not at issue here as their radios typically have shorter ranges and don't impact 72 MHz club radios. However some of the 27 MHz planes are being flown on club fields. In addition, 27 MHz is not dedicated to airplanes. Someone running an RC car on the other side of the park could easily turn your plane into an out of control missile or, at least, turn it into a pile of junk. This could happen and the two of you might not even be within sight of each other. So 27 MHz carries its own problems. What to do?

    THE SOLUTION - Spread Spectrum 2.4 GHz

    Enter a new offering, Spread Spectrum 2.4 GHz radio systems for parkflyers. This technology was introduced to the RC car community a while ago and has been growing in popularity. This new system is extremely well suited to the parkflyer community and does not interfere with the 72 MHz radio that are traditionally used by the club flyers. It also does not conflict with 27 MHz planes, cars or boats. In fact, by design 2.4 GHz devices of all kinds are made to work around each other without conflict. No channel control is required as it is designed right into the specifications of the radio. It is totally automatic!

    So, what does this mean to the parkflyer pilot looking for his first RC radio system? It means a new 6 channel computer radio choice that may be the best of all worlds in a radio system. And, it is competitive in price and features with the entry level 5 and 6 channel 72 MHz computer radios while avoiding the whole channel conflict issue. You avoid conflict with the airplane clubs and with other pilots, rc cars and rc boats in the area. Sounds good!

    Horizon Hobby has begun distribution of a 2.4 GHz Spread Spectrum system from SPEKTRUM. SPEKTRUM has been selling these systems for RC cars for a while. When you compare it to entry level computer radios like the Futaba 6EXAS, the Hitec Flash 5SX or the Airtronics VG 6000, it is quite competitive in price and features. And since the radio is targeted at the parkflyer community, it is packaged with 4 micro servos and a micro receiver that are very appropriate for these planes.

    If you are considering an entry level 6 channel computer radio to fly your planes, add this one to the list of radios you consider.

    DX6 DSM 6CH Park Flyer/Micro-Heli System $199
    Includes 6 channel micro receiver and 4- S75 micro servos
    http://www.spektrumrc.com/DSM/Better/DX6-glance.html
    http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByC...ProdID=SPM2460

    Digital DSM* Spread Spectrum Modulation
    • 10-model memory
    • Dual rates on aileron and elevator
    • Exponential rates on aileron and elevator
    • Dual and exponential rates can be combined on one switch
    • Trainer system compatible with Spektrum* and JR® radio systems.
    • Adjustable stick length
    • Throttle trim only affects idle position
    • Two-speed scrolling
    • Throttle-smart fail-safe system
    • Digital trims for precise adjustment

    Airplane Specific Features
    • Aileron to rudder mixing
    • Elevator-to-flap mixing
    • Flap-to-elevator mixing
    • Flaperon mixing
    • Delta wing mixing ( elevons)
    • Aileron differential
    • V-tail mixing
    • Three programmable mixes

    Helicopter Specific Features
    • Two 3-point throttle curves
    • Three 3-point pitch curves
    • Flight mode switch can combine throttle curves, pitch curves, dual and expo rates,
    and gyro sensitivity
    • Throttle hold
    • Revolution mixing up and down
    • One programmable mix
    • Supports 120° CCPM mixing
    • Independent digital trim setting for each flight mode

    More information - Spektrum
    http://www.spektrumrc.com/DSM/Better/DX6.html
    Indepth - Part 1
    http://www.horizonhobby.com/Explore/...ArticleID=1535
    Indepth - Part 2
    http://www.horizonhobby.com/Explore/...ID=1535&Page=2
    Product Reviews
    http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=623
    http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4936
    detailed field test - see post 16-25, 31-33, 66, 82, 96-101, 118, 142, 171, 178, 180,
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...7&page=2&pp=15
    Practical field report from a user.
    http://www.flyingcirkus.com/forum/Fl...m_96209/tm.htm
     

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    #7
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    2) Possible next planes - go for an ARF or a kit. RTFs are great but time to expand your knowledge and experience

    MORE ADVANCED PLANES -
    After you master a starter plane, what should you go to next. That is all
    according to where your interests lie. There are 4 channel aileon planes, 3
    channel aerobatics planes and then there are the extreme aerobats, pattern
    planes and 3D planes. Below are samples in each group. Which you choose is
    up to you.


    THREE CHANNEL ELEVATOR/AILERON OR ELEVON PLANES
    These planes introduce ailerons but do it on a 3 channel design without a
    rudder. They typically have throttle/aileron/elevator control, or they have
    elevons which combine the function of ailerons and the elevator into one
    surface. They are quite aerobatic with the limitation that having no rudder
    they can not perform rudder guided or enhanced manauvers. Knife edges, for
    example, make extensive use of the rudder. There are a few RTF packages
    here. The rest are ARF or kits and will require you to buy a radio system.

    These are a lot of fun!

    Carbon Falcon -
    This may be the ultimate take it with you plane
    Folds up to almost nothing for travel or for
    keep in the car fun!
    http://www.acesim.com/rc/p2/p2.html
    Discussion
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272229
    Review
    http://rcgroups.com/links/index.php?...at=198&id=4236
    Video
    http://www.acesim.com/rc/p2/videos.html


    F27-Stryker - RTF - $170
    Fun Keep-in-the-car plane
    If you must stay with an RTF, this might be you best bet
    Just pop off the tail fins and it goes back in the box!!!!!
    http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=PKZ1200
    Video
    http://rc-galaxy.com/Video/F-27_Stry...ris_7-9-04.wmv
    http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc_videos/p...mallformat.wmv
    http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc_videos/p...yker_video.wmv
    Review
    http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=392


    Multiplex Space Scooter - RTF
    http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGZV5&P=7
    ARF
    http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGZV4&P=7
    Review
    http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=548
    Video
    http://www.bungymania.com/videos/fil..._sun_stunt.wmv
    http://67.18.81.100/rcuvideos/magazi...aceScooter.wmv

    Multiplex Microjet - ARF
    http://www.multiplexusa.com/product_fs.htm
    video
    http://www.bungymania.com/videos/fil..._launching.wmv
    http://www.bungymania.com/videos/fil...ight_speed.wmv

    Viper Twin - ARF
    http://www.parkflyers.com/html/viper.html
    review
    http://www.parkflyers.com/Viper_RCM_PSD_LowPDF.pdf
    Video
    http://www.parkflyers.com/html/trailervid.html
    http://www.parkflyers.com/html/smoothvid.html

    Zagi XS - ARF
    http://zagi.com/index.php?main_page=...&products_id=1
    Video page
    http://www.zagi.com/index.php?main_p...812dbc8b76c42f

    Zagi XT - ARF
    http://zagi.com/index.php?main_page=...&products_id=5
    Video Page
    http://www.zagi.com/index.php?main_p...812dbc8b76c42f

    IFO - Easy to build kit
    Demo at the 2000 Tournament of Champions
    http://www.wildrc.com/htmlpages/movies/toc2000.mpg
    Flying Combat in a gym
    http://www.wildrc.com/htmlpages/movies/mk3combat.mpg

    Park Jet - Easy to build kit
    http://mountainmodels.com/parkjet.php
    Video
    http://mountainmodels.com/ParkJet.wmv


    FOUR CHANNEL AILERON TRAINERS
    These planes introduce the full set of flight controls consisting of
    ailerons/elevator/rudder/throttle. They are a logical next step for the
    pilot who wants to take their flying skills to full 4 channel control. All of
    these planes can perform aerobatics, but are primarily designed as 4 channel
    trainers with high wing designs . This makes them easier to fly but less
    aerobatic than the mid or low wing planes. RTF, ARF & Kits

    Magpie - with both wing kits - $55
    Easy to build Foam kit -
    Has trainer wing AND aileron sport wing
    Master the first, then advance to the second.
    They offer a complete package with both wings and all the electronics for $160
    http://www.mountainmodels.com/magpie.php
    discussion threads
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...51#post3502851
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...=SmoothE+build
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...51#post3502851
    Video - slow fly wing
    http://www.mountainmodels.com/Magpie.wmv
    Sport wing
    http://www.mountainmodels.com/MagpieSP.wmv

    SmoothE - $50
    Easy to build Balsa and foam
    4 channel aileron trainer
    http://www.mountainmodels.com/smoothe.php
    Discussion Threads
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...=SmoothE+build
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...&page=19&pp=15
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276761
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295225
    Funny video
    http://www.mountainmodels.com/SmoothEsmall.WMV

    Models Dandy Sport - $45
    http://www.mountainmodels.com/dandysport.php
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295225
    Complete Package $155
    Video
    http://www.mountainmodels.com/ds1.wmv

    GWS E-starter 400 - Simple Foam Kit - $50
    http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=551
    Available as a ARF complete package kit with radio - $150
    http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=611

    GWS Tiger Moth 400 - Simple Foam Kit - $70
    http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=203
    Complete kit including Radio - $175
    http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=658
    Review
    http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=345
    Video
    http://67.18.81.100/rcuvideos/magazi...345/TM400m.wmv

    Multiplex Magister ARF - $110
    http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXGZV2&P=ML
    Multiplex Magister - RTF - $299
    http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXGZV3&P=ML
    This plane is much larger than the others
    Close to a .40 glow trainer in size
    Review
    http://www.smoothair.ca/reviews/Magister/magister.htm
    Review
    http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=519
    Discussion
    http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309397
    Touch and Gos
    http://www.plawner.org/video/magister_touchngoes.wmv
    Video - Take off from grass - standard motor/battery
    http://67.18.81.100/rcuvideos/magazi.../magister1.wmv
    Towing up a glider
    http://plawner.org/video/Magister_easy.wmv
    Video - This is not with the standard motor
    this plane has an upgraded brushless motor
    http://plawner.org/video/magister_te...ister_test.wmv

    BeginAir - RTF or Receiver ready
    RTF - $180 Receiver Ready - $110
    http://www.parkflyers.com/html/begin-air.html
    Review
    http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=443
    video
    http://67.18.81.100/rcuvideos/magazi...3/BeginAir.wmv

    Cesna 182 - 4 Channel RTF - $180
    http://www.ewebcart.com/cgi-bin/cart...=1&item_id=144
    Includes 72 MHz radio and wall charger.
    Sku# 4303 $179.99 4 Channel with 72 MHz Radio
    (Intermediate Level Recommended)
    Video
    http://www.parkflyers.com/html/cessna_long_movie.html
     

  8.  
    #8
    Join Date
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    Location
    Omaha, NE
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    Wow! You guys are really bombarding him with suggestions! My local HobbyTown USA stores stock the Parkzone Cub and Super D for $129, so does the local independent hobby store. It's hard to find a hobby store that doesn't stock these, and I didn't want to assume that Flying Brick wanted to pay suggested retail.

    It's a shame you started with the Super Decath and had a bad experience, Flying Brick. It would be a good plane for you now.
     

  9.  
    #9
    I stand corrected. Wish I had a HobbyTownUSA store near me. All three local hobby shops in my area charge $160 for the planes.
     

  10.  
    #10
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    the Hobby Zone champ comes ready to fly for $89.00 and I love mine, also have a dozen Parkzone planes including the cub J-3 and I got it as a bind and fly one. Love em all, that's my problem ha ha. Order the planes online it it's cheaper, I've done that to.
     

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